Sunday, July 14, 2013

When will the ALEC/NRA Lying Start Again?

Think about this!
Turning the other cheek is supposed to be a sacred virtue. But by removing the duty to retreat from a confrontation in public when one can safely do so, the “Stand Your Ground” law allowed George Zimmerman to stalk and kill an unarmed teenager and walk away a free man. That’s a tragedy, because there can be no doubt that Zimmerman could have avoided a confrontation with Trayvon Martin on the evening of February 26, 2012.
Think about this!
shot a kid that the police told him to leave alone.

   911 dispatcher:
   Are you following him? [2:24]

   Yeah. [2:25]

   911 dispatcher:
   We don’t need you to do that. [2:26]
Saw this on Think Progress:

Morial made the call on MSNBC’s Up With Steve Kornacki:

    MORIAL: It’s important to recognize a year ago when there was some sunlight on ALEC, many of us called for many of its major supporters to withdraw. I want to renew that call this morning, because the poison of the stand your ground law was from ALEC. They went to the state — I’m a former state legislator — and have watched them operate. There needs to be sunlight on what they’re doing, which what they’re doing is creating model legislation and spread the poison of stand your ground all over the nation. Those who support ALEC should withdraw from ALEC because this kind of thing and the use of stand your ground is why at the very instance the law enforcement there in Sanford, Florida, did not arrest George Zimmerman as they should have, at the very inception.

And I became absolutely positive that I needed to repost this from last year:
Cause the the American Legislative Exchange Council will start lying again, becausetheyhaveto

From last year
WELL – ALEC is doing what they do best again - LYING

And editorial by Executive Director Ron Scheberle included the following misleading statements (my emphasis):
I wish that our critics would conduct themselves similarly. Instead, liberal activist groups like Color of Change have used this tragedy to falsely accuse ALEC of collaborating with the National Rifle Association on model legislation. The truth is that ALEC has no affiliation with the NRA, which is not a member of ALEC.

ALEC is a partnership between state legislators, members of the nonprofit and private sectors, and the general public that works to support the fundamental principles of free-market enterprise, limited government and federalism at the state level. ALEC does not have any model legislation involving the NRA.
Ron - really - when you lie down with dogs like the NRA for over two decades - you're going to get fleas.
First of all I did a search on  - - Color of Change NRA ALEC - with a one month limit.
And this was all I found

In the Wake of the Tragedy, Group Calls on Corporations to Cut Ties with ALEC and the NRA
December 19, 2012

For Immediate Release

Contact: CJ Frogozo,, 310.570.2622
Rachel Tardiff,, 202.746.1507

New York, NY – “Our deepest condolences go out to the families of the children, teachers, and school personnel killed in the unspeakable tragedy in Connecticut. In the wake of this mass shooting and similar tragedies around the country, our members remain committed to changing a systemic culture of gun violence and promoting sensible reforms to gun laws that, if implemented, can improve public safety in our communities.

"Because of these core principles, ColorOfChange will continue holding corporations accountable for their continued support of the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC) and the National Rifle Association (NRA), the chief opponents of commonsense laws. Corporations that continue to stand with ALEC and the NRA, like Duke Energy, State Farm, AT&T, and eBay, play a role in blocking sensible reforms that could address and prevent gun violence.

"ALEC and the NRA create and push laws that make it easy for people to get high-powered assault weapons like the ones used in Newtown and so many of the tragic mass shootings that have plagued our nation. The NRA still plays a key role in crafting ALEC's model gun-access legislation and these laws destroy families and erode public safety, putting us all in harm’s way. More than 40 corporations have already left ALEC, and now is the time for more companies to end their ties with ALEC and the NRA.

"Now more than ever, it is imperative that corporations that support ALEC and the NRA cut these ties and become part of solutions that can stem the violence.”

Don't see anything wrong there - asking corporations to cut ties with ALEC 'cause of gun legislation nastiness - especially when you consider that ALEC HAS created and pushed these pieces of ALEC "model legislation":

THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that the American Legislative Exchange Council recommends the rejection, by federal, state, and local governing bodies, of further restrictions on law-abiding American citizens in the form of “waiting periods” of any length; and


THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that the American Legislative Exchange Council recommends the rejection of current proposals at the local, state, and federal levels that arbitrarily restrict the possession of the semi-automatic class of firearms by law-abiding American citizens; and


THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that the American Legislative Exchange Council recommends the rejection of further restrictive firearms laws that only serve to limit law-abiding citizens in the exercise of their Constitutionally guaranteed rights while having no effect on the activities of the criminal element in our society;

I don't think ALEC members UnitedHealthcare, UPS, AT&T,  Diageo, Pfizer, AOL, or Comcast asked for that legislation.

And when you think about the bolded parts of his statement (which were my emphasis) - there is a real disconnect with reality there.

Let’s see – all I have to do is go back to my posting after the Trayvon Martin Shooting and I have items like this:

From April 2012
Erickson reported:

At Grover Norquist's Wednesday meeting a discussion about the ongoing assault against ALEC, the American Legislative Exchange Council, came up. Multiple sources (there are hundreds in the room) tell me that the NRA representative took issue with ALEC getting rid of his public safety section. That section has drafted a model "stand your ground" law, which Florida passed.

The NRA representative claimed that if ALEC was going to run away from the fight on these public safety issues, ALEC might just run away from other issues too, e.g. immigration.

Erickson further reported that an ALEC representative present at the meeting complained that the NRA had refused to help his organization push back on attacks they were receiving.

Private Sector Task Force Membership
Is conditional upon renewal of full ALEC membership
and receipt of the current year's assessment for the Task Force operating budget

And you have this
The National Rifle Association – NRA
The NRA is a long-time member and longtime funder of the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC), and an NRA representative has served on the Public Safety and Elections Task Force for many years. ."[3]

Tara Mica, NRA-Institute for Legislative Action State Liaison, was the co-chair of ALEC's Public Safety and Elections Task Force for a number of years, until the Spring of 2011. [4] [5] [6] (formerly known as the Criminal Justice and Homeland Security). [7]

The NRA was a "Vice-Chairman" level sponsor of 2011 American Legislative Exchange Council Annual Conference, which in 2010, equated to $25,000.[8]

And you have this 
How long,

1989-1990 Source Book of American State Legislation
Task Force on Law and Justice
Private Sector Coordinating Committee
Chuck Cunningham – State Liaison
National Rifle Association

1992 ALEC Annual Report
Private Sector Member

1993 Annual Meeting
ü      Skeet Shoot sponsored by the NRA
ü      Panelist on workshop
ü      Luncheon Keynote Speaker:  Protecting Your Rights: Reducing Violent Crime; Wayne LaPierre, Executive Director National Rifle Association
ü      Entertainment & Hospitality Sponsor
ü      ALEC's Private Sector Member

1995 - ALECs 22nd Annual Meeting.
Tanya Metaksa of the National Rifle Association gave a stirring speech on the imperative to protect the Second Amendment rights of Americans.

1997 ALEC Annual Meeting Handbook
ü      Annual Meeting Sponsors – Vice Chairman Level
ü      ALEC Private Sector Member
ü      ALEC Shooting Sports Event Tallow Creek Shooting Club & BeauChene Country Club Sponsored by the National Rifle Association

InsideALEC – June 2010 Article
ALEC Brief Defends Second Amendment
BY CHRIS W. COX, NRA Institute for Legislative Action
In a few short weeks, the Supreme Court will deliver a decision that will have a great impact on all Americans’ Second Amendment rights. If the Court’s decision is favorable, American gun owners will be on the verge of a major step forward—due in large part to the support of organizations like the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC) and its members.
Chris W. Cox is the executive director of the NRA Institute for Legislative Action. The NRA is a member of ALEC’s Public Safety and Elections Task Force.

At ALEC's annual meeting this summer [2012], the NRA had the biggest booth at the convention in Salt Lake City and also underwrote a shooting event along with one of the largest sellers of assault weapons in the world.

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